Oh, and J first

Thanks, Hamlette! I'll give it a try . . .

Bring down 5 first time through the deck

I'm just starting since I've been tied up all day getting a new hot water heater. If anyone's still out there, what happens with the 5? Someone indicated bringing it down after playing the 5 up. Wasn't sure how to make that happen. Somehow, I got the 5 to play over from the deck. Which is it? Or is there another option?

HEY 12 hours later and lots of great clues and I finished it....with 192 moves and almost 5 minutes but hey...time to celebrate!!! you guys are great for my ego!! thanks for the help (again) !!

move 8s to the 9s..then 9s to the 10s.. makes room for Ks and then Ks.. Yes it's 4s first.. and don't play the 4 up ..bring 3s onto it.

AH..theres the problem..I was using 4 first......

Even with all of these most excellent clues..I fear I am stuck ...after the second flip after the 5...there is no where to put the K..my 85 count is off..I am only at 70....then I have to flip a third time and end up being at 163....any suggestions..

It's 4s first

Red K, 4 H first