wow you got me down 13 pts with that clue.. whoooo hooooo!!!! Thanks again

I was up all night anyway fizzbut..not a problem.lol By jove you got it!!!!... got the clue through my hard head!! THANK YOU!! I was playing the 5s up but I kept trying to put the 5s down for some reason..and I got down to 154!! Whether I manage it again is another thing..but that's OK!!!

I found with the 2 it didn't matter if you brought it down onto the 3 or left it up as far as # of moves. The 5 I was able to play up when it turned up and I couldn't play the 5 down at all. Don't move the 4 up right away but move the 3 onto it so you can play the 5 up and get to the A earlier. Hope this doesn't keep you up at night donna.

Thanks emm!! You were right..I did know what you meant, I have played it that many times lol! I seem to have brain sludge more than usual lately lol! The thing that was different, was not to play down the 2.. but the rest was the same as what I was doing. I did finally notice that I was not replacing the 5s for the 5s I wanted to play up.. but I can't even do as well as I was earlier now lol Clearly, I am making some silly move like on the other days..where I don't even see that I am doing it. I am going to give it a rest and try during the night again if I don't sleep. But thank you emm for taking the time to write down all those instructions!!

I'm thinkin' the order of the Kings to blank spaces is the key here. By the time you have gone through the dog pile once you should have 1-6s up. Do not play the 2 or the 9 donw. Q on K which goes to the first blank space. No cards played down until J to Q, then you can move the 10 to the J and play up 2-4. 9 to 10 and K to next blank which frees the A. K to the next blank space because you need both Qs to be free for Js. Egads! I just read my instructions but if you have played this as much as I think you have played this game, you will get it!

Ahh but I did not bring the 3s down after I put the 3 up.. got me to 164!! Now what?? loll I think I can.. I think I can........................ lol

Rats... I already did 3s first... and can't get under 171. Oh well...will keep chugging away!

That's the secret, fizzbut ! 10 moves lower - right off the top ! Thnx for being there

3 first brightkis

Looks like everyone's finding the secret to getting under 160 moves but me I've tried every combo I can think of ........ Hint?