probably more difficult when you start with 2

Well Oceanstar2, thank you - I should avoid to post at night, when brain and body are not synchronized.... Worse, I had already completed a couple of games putting 2 under 3 - so I had seen both red 8's

If you place the 2 on the 3, you will have both the 8 and the 8 to choose from. As Pancra says, it"s best to play 8 first. Good hint and thanks pancra Also thanks to Leetah and chancow for your hints.

In my opinion chankow's hint is not important: in fact it is possible to solve it quickly by following Leetah's suggestion.
Pancra: I could not find a way to play where it is possible to play 8 before 8
Dilip - I tried to catch you, but... too hard ) You too strong man, I am giving up

I had no problem using the 2 of Spades on the 3 of Hearts. You just have to use the King of Hearts and 10 of spades first.

I agree with Michaela and SweetSuRpRise, I got stuck too when I used black 2 under 3 and Chancow's rate shouldn't be misleading.

10 first

yeah michaela is right.. The first one shouldnt be rated misleading

is you put the 2s on the 3h then you will be stuck with that pile...atleast if you played the same way i did

You can go lower folks, thanks Chancow and Pancra for the tips