Veronicarose, weird, our card count must be one higher---otherwise, once the J plays over, play stops.

Me too, but thanks Robin.

Thanks anyway Robin, I've been doing that all along. I still get 136...

You are going to want to kick yourself in the seat of your pants when I tell you where to put the 9. No offense intended of course. I just didn't think, and with being so tired last night, to mention where to move it to. So I apologize for my oversight. It is probably because I thought you would already know where to move it when the 9 moved up, which is on the 10. I think I am going to give up on giving clues. There are others here that do it so much better.

Funny thing that it was never mentioned where you move the 9...

Veronicarose, I also tried numerous times, the second I play over the J, play up Q, and the 10, I'm at 136, so I still don't understand how others are doing it...

I can't do it. I got 136 very quickly with @Pa Baldy's excellent clues and I can also get 136 with Layla, 57 Feral Cats and King of Hearts clues, but I can't get 135.

James, to reiterate what Susan said, the only two things that you do different is that you put 8 on 9, and move the 9. 9 is still first.. Once you move the 9, you should be able to move cards up so that you can play the J over and the Q up to get to the 7 which is at the very bottom under the Q. This will keep you from moving the J

I'm at 61 moves at the flip.

Left the K face down and still come up with 136, so something or other is going on...but thanks for your patience and help.