OK, I played it again. I had to move the 10 on the J first - then I played the 10 on the J. Don't forget to leave the 4 down for the 3. Also, 8 first, then after the 4 plays up replace it with the 4. Sorry for all the confusion.

Sorry Donna, Joe is correct. I believe I played the 9 and 10.

The 9 and the 10 do play first but they move from their piles. They do not come down.
I think you're right about Fizz and the two Kings but they do eventually play down from the dogpile, just not on the first pass down to the A. They do have to play down as one goes back up the dogpile. That's what confused me. "If you don't bring down the first one it allows you to not bring down the 2nd one." But they both do come down eventually???

Donna, I think it was 9 and 10. ???

Donna Don't know if this will help but don't bring down the 3.

well that'll have to do me..thanks William and all who gave clues today. Sweet dreams to everyone if it is your bedtime

I came back and glad I did. Thanks William It brought me down one lower.. which black 9 did you bring down first..and which black 10? The 5s clue was a big help for me. I can't seem to get 6s I think, out of the way.

I gave a misleading clue. I'm not sure what "2" cards are not brought down, but one of them is the 5. The way I played it was to bring down the 4 onto the 5. K is 1st. Then, as you said earlier, don't bring any kings down (none - maybe that's one of the 2nd cards). 3 on 4. play the spades up to 7. 5 plays over. When 6 goes up, bring 6 to 7 - play up 7. Bring down the 8. Play the 4 and you should have it. Sorry Fizz, but I'm obligated to you and others.

To keep the tone of the puzzle using Joe's musical inspiration... Maybe I'm Amazed..I ever got this far...... da da da da da da da...

gave me a good laugh Joe !! William look at you at lowest moves..way to go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am two off. Can't find those moves and not sure I will be back and I am surprised to got that far. Like Tikki I can't seem to concentrate today.