Thanks for the additional clues, Hamlette! 8 on 9 did it for me! If it helps anyone at this stage in the game, the 4 plays over.

Hamlette, spot on clues! Thanx! I wish your Mom many more birthdays.

I didn't come back but it looks like there is time to try again this morning lol. How lovely your mum is 87! I hope you all had a lovely time!! I wish her many more years of good health

Sorry Donna, I posted and then went out to dinner. Mom's 87th. Try this: 8 on 9 3 on 4 8 first and after the flip, very few cards come down. Lots of moves right before the flip. I'm at 70 when I flip. After the flip only bring down Q J and 9.

I'm done in..ended up two moves off but better than I expected. You sure rocked the game today Norm..congrats !! Sweet dreams all!

Your clues were great Hamlette..bringing down both red 3s onto the two showing black 4s and 4 playing up and now at 142

bring down Qs and Js onto Ks..

4 and 5s play straight over at the end. So do the two face cards beneath the Ks and the Ks as was said before. Still 5 moves off lowest...

Any other suggestions Hamlette? That helped

Me too Hamlette!!! My brain has been eaten by aliens. That is my story and I'm sticking to it lol!!!