Brilliant solution Nano and Fizz, and great clues Fizz. Thanks!

It was a reference to the 2 pile clue which contains the 8. Therefore 8 first.

I agree SuzyQ! It's too cryptic!! lol

fizzbut: huh?!? I just got on at 7:55 PST. Your first clues made sense and I am planning to try them, but this last comment I really don't get, you cryptic friend.

Ok! I'll try again! Might wait for tomorrow! And yes, I'll savor the Ohhhhh's!! I love roses!!

It's probably not the one that seems logical. (like larryt thought) and next time savor the "ohhhhhh"s

It's only 9:44pm est and all of you on the east coast are snowed in so I just have one thing to say -
HHHHHEEEEEELLLLLLLPPPPPP!!! PPPPPPPLLLLLLLEeeeeAAAAaaaaSSSssseeeee........
My lowest is only 137! Since trying to figure out fizz' clues I have gone higher!! I'll be here late if anyone - just anyone at all - wants to offer "extra" help!!! Thanks - love you all!!!!

If anyone sees this and can answer I would appreciate it! Do you move the 8 or 8 first? Thanks!!

Sometimes I catch a quick "ohhhhhh" I got it moment! And then there are other times I "hate" your cryptic clues!! lol

For those of you who don't think that's much of a clue. K first. (only I don't mean first first of course)