I had real trouble with this one til I read Davidi's clue

Davidi..this time the J did bring me lower.. thanks

Oops for me you are right signsalot.I did make a typo..I meant K first.. Geesh how did I do that? I get the same exact score with either red Jack for now..but as you say Davidi..there's always another way lol

Signsalot, K was how I did it first time, now I,m going Q, K, K, J. No doubt there's another way with fewer moves, there always is!!!!

Davidi & donnamusica, do you mean the K of Clubs or Spades? Maybe that's the confusion.

No worries Davidi.. I think everyone knows that.. its usually someone new who isn't used to the site, yet, who marks things misleading. I have had many many of those comments lol!!

Thanks Davidi for looking at them and letting me know .. haven't been back out.. not been as good..but I will be again. !!

Donna, thank you for trying!!! I certainly wasn't trying to mislead anyone, it was just what I did, like all hints use at your own risk!!!

Good morning all. Donna, I didn't get a chance to tell you how much I enjoyed your garden pictures, thank you. Glad to hear you were able to get out into the garden, hope it's the first of many.

My helpful change didn't stick for some reason.. grrrrrrr