oh no! I didn't mean to pass you, signsalot, just trying to catch up, your hint of playing the spades up through 5 was great, I think you can take it one lower even, got to get back to work.

Wowwwww thanks signsalot!! That did it!!! I should not be pleased...when I needed the hints to get there...but sometimes I can't do it even with the hints lol!!

When you have choices, play 5, Q, K, the spades up to 5, K, J. I think that should cover it.

Sometimes I have a little luck involved with some very good hints!!! LOL

But I still didn't get anywhere near as low as you are so I am still making some stupid mistakes!!

My apologies...I kept on redoing it and realized this simple little stupid idiotic mistake I was making!!!! Thanks signsalot and Tammie!!!

Did you still use K first and K second??

I am outta whack with everyone this week lol

It sure helped me donna!!! LOL

You must have done a lot more magical than 5 and Qs first, signsalot!! lol It gets me more moves! I must have to shake up the rest of the recipe